Well since your all in the house..we might as well bang our heads for a bit...all of this came to me while i had some late night drinking and thinking.. spending sometime brushing up on my TMS history of sorts.That in turn had me rolling over in my sleep Sunday nite... .I kinda answered it for myself..but...do riders prefer industrial park style crit racing over Technical suburban courses? Stay with me on this..looking over the numbers from last weeks Ohio state crit championship within most peoples radar drew so few Miscene folks? Now i understand the whole National conflict, and human commitment issue..But looking at the BTR turnout seemed considerable larger..a very small contingent from the miscne area seemed to make the short trip south. I know it wasn't Miscenes state championship but it was one all the same..I guess my whole thought behind this potential turd kettle is..throughout Tms history do riders generally seem to like the office park style racing over any other type? or are promoters just creating a more "friendly" environment.. Allen park always seemed to draw more than Rockford for example..Waterford and often Grattan numbers nearly challenge weekend gigs. If this is true maybe promoters job just got easier..Hard ass Technical courses may go the way of the dinosaurs..
"In The Name Of Tragedy"
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i’ve seen & heard lots of stories
all them abt normal things happening
& ppls physically making things out to mean something they really don’t
while mentally taking everything like a bitch.
amen
interesting
wonder how factual it is
It's not factual, it's crap.
really?
why did nearly everyone from Michigan shun the Black Aces race?
Name one current crit in Michigan that is hard. Negative racing doesn't justify hard.
Crits can suck my balls hard!
1:31 PM
exactly
i would agree, slightly we actually have some good crits, very few "industrial park" ones. But the down town ones we do have are not necessarily too hard as far as skill goes.
I would love to see most bumped up to at least 1hr 20. i think that would greatly change the dynamics of the race.
I think a lot of has to do with the nature of our racing. A vast majority of our racers are willing to put it all on the line on a course they deem safe and fun, but aren't willing to go to a race with a larger potential for crashing. A lot of us have kids, jobs, mortgages..... There also isn't the NCC/NRC emphasis. The big Michigan team seems to flounder at big races when they show up and then come back to our smaller races and flex their muscle. The in state competition tries to emulate them while simply racing more negative and still getting beat. The only team that breaks the mold is from out of state and frequently wins when they face off, because they have big race experience, legs, and like to animate. No offense to John C, it is a good race and I like it. It just isn't most racers idea of good weekend entertainment.
Which would confirm why Panther comes to Michigan with a skeletal team. its prosperous.
But why dis a race that could possible make you a better well skilled competitor, or getting dropped from time to time does have its advantages. Isn't that part of nature to "improve"
3:55 PM
4:01 PM
good points both.
4:01 my guess is it is out of their comfort zone. We would rather do the same old same old and not get dropped than deal with growing pains. The same goes for during a race, why risk getting dropped and racing aggressively if you could sit in and say well I finished in the field, it just wasn't my day. The highs aren't as high and lows aren't as low.
4:16 PM
best comment ever.
Tuesdays with Lamby
5:51 PM
Now that's DOPAGE!
Go to Hyde Park or Maderia Down in Southern OH and tell me that technical crits do not attract riders. Look at B-Ham or Milford. Both draw a great crowd. John's race is a GREAT race. The down side this year was it was the weekend of July 4th so a lot of people I think headed out of town. I think the only reason why BTR draws any sort of crowd is the payout is okay. Due to lack of options, I go. Shitty racing is better than no racing.
Shitty racing is better than no racing.
par norm
Good comments from all and yes 4th of July weekend and rainy weather. But the truch is Mi Scene "racers" don't want hard races because they can't pretend that they're good.
The Ace also could care less about their feelings. He designed a course where 9/10 times the top 3-5 are the strongest racers and nobody can bull shit the results. A lot of people know that this is the truth which is why the count was down.
Just look at the last three years top 5 finishers. Speaks for itself.
the race was on the July 4th weekend - most people were up north at their cottages
Milford
Birmingham
I highly doubt everyone was on vay-cay.
it is what is.
Everyone I know was up north or on vay cay.
Didn't have a bike.
Dead mother
Who is John Gault?
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